We often discuss the importance of social listening and its positive impact on your brand. But how do you translate that benefit and convert into engagement from your community? Even though it’s great to generate new content ideas from listening on social media, unless your audience is engaging with you in return, you’re losing out on a key part of social media. This week on #TwitterSmarter, we invited the founder of Arkay Marketing and PR, Lucy Rendler-Kaplan, to tell us about how she manages social engagement for her business and clients.
Here’s a summary of our chat.
Guest: Lucy Rendler-Kaplan
Topic: Driving social engagement for your brand.
Format: Eight questions directed at the guest. Everyone’s welcome to share.
It sure can. When you listen on social media, you consequently learn what your audience truly wants.
A1: 10000% social listening is the best, fastest, easiest way to find relevant content with which to engage your community. People in social are very open with opinions and questions #twittersmarter https://t.co/vuvq0Gf6Wm
— LUCYrk (@LUCYrk78) April 29, 2021
Apart from identifying the ideal type of content to share, as Brian told us, social listening also helps you understand your community’s terminology—which means you’ll become more aware of the kind of language they’re familiar with. You’ll also improve your communication skills, relating specifically to engaging with the varied group of people you’ll come meet on social media.
A1… I think it improves engagement a lot
1. You get to know how to interact
2. You'll understand what words to use and what not to use#TwitterSmarter— Brian Shiraho (@Jahelite_) April 29, 2021
With Twitter, hashtags are the key. It’s such a great way to track conversations that even other social platforms have adopted hashtags. Hashtags help you find discussions that don’t directly mention your brand but are still relevant to your business and industry. Those are the conversations you should be paying attention to because they help you identify discussions and topics you can get involved in.
A2: hashtags help a LOT. You want to listen more to niches over actual brand mentions to really get a pulse on brand sentiment, category questions, trends, etc #twittersmarter https://t.co/eEPHCgK45o
— LUCYrk (@LUCYrk78) April 29, 2021
Another good way to listen to your audience is to create and subscribe to lists. As our friend from Biteable suggested, lists are great for categorizing Twitter users by industry, business, topics of interest, and just about anything else. Once you’ve created these lists, you can keep an eye on what the users in your list are tweeting about, even if you don’t follow them. Most social media management tools like TweetDeck offer an easy way to manage all your lists in one place.
A2: Create lists on Twitter that identify keywords and accounts you'd like to keep an eye on. Then, use a tool like TweetDeck to view your lists in one place. #TwitterSmarter
— Biteable (@biteable) April 29, 2021
Yet another effective social listening tactic is to run polls and surveys. As Lance mentioned, ask open-ended questions and encourage your audience to share how they feel about you and your brand’s social presence.
#TwitterSmarter A2: Listen to your audience by asking open-ended questions. Surveys are good, too.
— Lance A Schart (@LanceASchart) April 29, 2021
This is a bit of a touchy subject. According to our guest, if you have a clean social media strategy with a heavy focus on engagement, social media algorithms and constant updates won’t impact you as much.
A3: here’s OUR secret. They don’t matter at ALL. When you’ve got a solid SM strategy coupled with an aggressively strong/time consuming engagement strategy, that’s all your focus needs. #twittersmarter https://t.co/qO52goxAjU
— LUCYrk (@LUCYrk78) April 29, 2021
What’s interesting, though, is how much algorithms determine what we see and what we don’t see. As a result, engagement rates also vary. As Vraj pointed out, most social media algorithms promote what they think are well-performing posts. However, the performance of a post is judged by vanity metrics like likes and comments. Most algorithms don’t consider the quality of engagement.
A3.
Filtering out relevant and great performing posts and show them to niche audience so that thay can connect with the right people and brands. Vanity metrics plays big role here.#TwitterSmarter
— Vraj Shah (@vrajshahspeaks) April 29, 2021
The best way to deal with this rather vicious circle is to share genuinely helpful content. Nicola said it well: unless you post content that your audience can resonate with, the algorithms won’t get you far.
A3. Algorithms definitely play a role, BUT if you’re not posting content that resonates with your audience then no algorithm will help you grow. #TwitterSmarter
— Nicola Webster (@_njwebster) April 29, 2021
Indeed, you do. Lucy even said that it might be even more important than planning your posts.
A4: more than anything else! IMO, the engagement and follow strategy is infinitely more than important than planning posts #twittersmarter https://t.co/LIjoFIvmF8
— LUCYrk (@LUCYrk78) April 29, 2021
She gave us an example from her business. They select a handful of people to follow and engage with them for up to three weeks consistently. This allows the user enough time to get to know them and engage in return.
Though this process is time-consuming, Lucy admitted that it gives them measurable results.
It’s very involved and time consuming, but works consistently! We have a set number of targeted people to follow daily then put them into an engagement plan for three weeks #twittersmarter
— LUCYrk (@LUCYrk78) April 29, 2021
Suzanne shared a similar idea. She also emphasized the importance of building relationships with people. However, to do that, you’ll first have to understand who your audience is and what matters to them. Once you have that information, you can find ways to get involved in those discussions.
A4 To start with you must understand how social media fits into your overall marketing. Once you understand where your current & potential clients spend their time, then you create a strategy on how to build those relationships now and over time. #twittersmarter
— Suzanne Brown/Biz + Marketing Strategy (@OKsuziStrategy) April 29, 2021
The most important part of your engagement strategy is your goals. Make sure you set tangible and measurable goals along with a list of people (or even demographic) that you want to follow and engage with your brand. And, of course, no engagement strategy is complete without setting time aside to engage with your audience every day.
A5: measurable goals, targeted list of goal followers to follow, a consistent schedule on how/when to engage new people you follow, solid social listening #twittersmarter https://t.co/3DHANNn3v0
— LUCYrk (@LUCYrk78) April 29, 2021
All that said, as crucial as it is to have a thorough plan of what you’ll do, when, and how, it’s equally important to be spontaneous. Acknowledge the value of someone else’s content and current events or news, as Jennifer explained.
A5: Be mindful of the actual time it takes to have a solid engagement strategy. Some of it can be planned, but allow for the serendipity of found content as well as breaking or relevant news. #TwitterSmarter
— ? Jennifer Navarrete (@epodcaster) April 29, 2021
If you’re surprised to hear a yes, then well, don’t be. As Lucy said in a previous response, her strategy is to choose a few people to engage and build relationships with. And this, she told us, has been working for her for about 10 years.
A6: unpopular opinion? My answer is YES! After working on this strategy for around 10 years, we CAN now guarantee growth MoM for our SM clients ?? #twittersmarter https://t.co/Wv6hpjQgm2
— LUCYrk (@LUCYrk78) April 29, 2021
As Alyx explained, a strategy is a plan to achieve your goals. But for your plan to go according to plan, you need to regularly work on it. Even a guaranteed strategy won’t help you much if you don’t actively implement it.
A6 Having a strategy is just one step to getting engagement
Not everyone can go viral
You have to follow through with the plan and continually work and adjust it, because most growth comes from hard work over time
-Alyx #TwitterSmarter https://t.co/oBFWzPpGwh— Charlie & Alyx – Charlie Appel Agency (@ColfaxInsurance) April 29, 2021
Be sincere. Even though you’re a social media marketer and your goal is to drive engagement and awareness to your brand, treat every interaction as you would offline. Be helpful every time you participate in a conversation—address their issues and concerns truly. People can quite quickly identify fakery, and even more so on social media.
A7: truly be interested. Don’t treat these new relationships online any differently than you would meeting new people in person. Be the FIRST to answer pain points. #twittersmarter https://t.co/XotELnQivh
— LUCYrk (@LUCYrk78) April 29, 2021
Our chat regular Rachel from Express Writers spoke about the importance of being present on social media. This helps develop brand trust, and once people know they can rely on your insights, they’ll start to engage with you more often and with more gusto. Just remember that it’ll take time to establish your brand. Overnight success on social media is never for the long term.
A7: Consistency is key. You need to make sure you're showing up regularly and adding value to your community. #TwitterSmarter
— Express Writers | Your Content Writing Partner (@ExpWriters) April 29, 2021
Nothing beats good ol’ Twitter chats. Follow hashtags relevant to your brand and check out events you can participate in and engage with on social media. And as our guest added, don’t shy away from asking lots of questions. That’s how we learn and improve.
A8: #twittersmarter! Twitter chats. Hashtags on relevant platforms. Asking a lot of questions. https://t.co/Vyw3tYulVH
— LUCYrk (@LUCYrk78) April 29, 2021
Carla shared her favorite resources: Social Media Today, Social Media Examiner, content from the social scheduling tool, Later, and Mari Smith.
A8: @Latermedia @socialmedia2day @MariSmith @smexaminer are my go-to #socialmedia people. #TwitterSmarter https://t.co/D45OYENHTL
— Carlarjenkins (@carlarjenkins) April 29, 2021
Other recommendations included Buffer, Neil Patel, HubSpot, and SproutSocial.
Well, folks, that’s all from me this week. Thanks for reading through, and for more insights from our chat with Lucy, check out this Twitter thread. If you enjoy our chat recaps, you’ll love the full-fledged ones. Come join us on Thursdays at 1pm ET!
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